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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.29 21:45:00 -
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 Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Kayosoni
Khanid mk2 gets my stamp of WIN.
Yea...
Except, what they've done now is more or less exactly what "we" suggested 2 years ago in the earlier remake of Khanid ships.
But yea, GG.
Unfortunately thats true :S
Still good to see those changes.
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.29 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xequecal
Originally by: Gibbal Slogspit
According to EFT I hit 193 dps with 4 focused pulse II and 2 HAML II, which is my current fit. This dps is with scorch in which I get 28K optimal in this ship. Which is almost 10KM more than what I get with the t1 heavy assualt missiles I have fitted. With the changed sacriledge I get 181 dps, bare in mind I set the rapid launch to 5 to even this dps test out.
The only thing you are correct on is the cap use, I have no problem tracking destroyers upwards with my focused pulse, anything smaller I cant hit, but also anything smaller wont take much damage from unguided heavy assualt missiles either.
I find it very hard to believe that 5 missile launchers with a double damage bonus are hitting for less DPS than 4 lasers with a single damage bonus and 2 launchers with none. You're fudging these numbers somehow, either running the test with maxxed gunnery and gimped missile skills, or accounting for damage mods in one instance but not the other.
He is using ****ty missile skills.
New sacri is EXACTLY same as cerb with kinetic HAMs (with maxed skills).
Rage HAMs (qfit doesnt have faction ones... they are tad worse than rage) do 300dps with maxed skills. Faction ones will do about 280 or so (without ANY damage mod)
Here ya go mr. "my damage got gimped". Your damage went up by over 50%.
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.29 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xequecal
How exactly do I use these tools to test out a test server ship? You do realize that the ship's new bonuses aren't actually entered into these tools yet, right? PLEASE tell me you didn't take the old Sacrilege bonuses, forced 5 launchers onto it, and then posted those numbers.
Use cerberus for damage calculations. Just instead of putting "any" HAM you need to use kinetic ones.
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.30 09:47:00 -
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I guess sacri wont get hvy missile damage bonus. It would lose "DMG to all" for "DMG to EM" missiles then.
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Deva Blackfire
Citadel of dark arts
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Posted - 2007.07.30 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Varshyll
Originally by: Heelay Ashrum
Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 30/07/2007 10:02:38
Originally by: Altai Saker
The Malediction is still a joke... why does it have an em missile bonus? It will lose to any taranis setup and if you try to use EM rockets you will do 10 or 15 dps against minmatar t2 stuff. It is better... but still sub-par
since the crow have a "kinetic only" bonus it's fair have an "EM bonus ". But together with the "rocket only" bonus make this ship quite crappy.
IMHO:
frigate:
5% missile ROF ( istead of rocket)
5% tanking bonus
intie:
5% EM dammage
5% reduction in Signature Radius
Am I the only one to notice that this inty has FOUR bonuses ? 
Check other ceptors too. You might be surprised O_O
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